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Message 11 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

I'm afraid that this is yet another example of the shambles that BT is making of its forceful migrations of customers to EE. I say forceful because, quite often, customers are migrated to EE without their knowledge and without them asking for it, having originally called BT on a separate matter. It seems that BT's agents are incentivised to bring about these migrations and some of them are a little "economical with the truth" in what they tell customers.
I also note that the Moderators on this forum now apparently do not have access to customer accounts as they used to have, so cannot investigate these problems as they used to. Does anyone know when, and why, this change has happened?
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Message 12 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW


@chrisjpwrote:
I also note that the Moderators on this forum now apparently do not have access to customer accounts as they used to have, so cannot investigate these problems as they used to. Does anyone know when, and why, this change has happened?

The Moderators were based in Enniskillen & as part of the ongoing push to cut jobs & costs, BT decided to close the facility, so they were all laid off. What we have now is a completely new bunch who through no fault of their own, have been given the job without the tools to actually do it.

So whereas previously a Moderator may take on a case & personally see it through to resolution, the best  the new one's can  offer is "Call BT", despite numerous fruitless calls to BT having driven the poster here in the first place...

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Message 13 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

Commiserations with Smokey24 - I can fully understand the frustration as my elderly father and his partner find themselves in the same boat, for the second time in 12 months.

First time was involuntary switch to digital service resulting from a call to try and correct a mis-billing.  That was an utterly shambolic  process that resulted in the loss of the landline (and consequently fall alarm) for two weeks.  This is a couple in their 80's, both frail and with terminal cancers and heavily reliant on their landline for medical matters as well as social contact.  The mobile service there is such that calls can only be made/received in one upstairs room on a good day, or outside and up the road a bit, so arguing the toss with BT is problematic to say the least.  In spite of many calls to BT, with their vulnerability and  the importance of the service to them heavily emphasised from the outset, BT appeared indifferent.  Whilst individual call handlers (once reached after hours on hold) were apparently pleasant and helpful, they appeared powerless to effect any change.  Promised actions did not materialise, calls back were not made and in the end, service was only restored when the original, erroneously entered, changeover date arrived.

This time around, a billing enquiry produced the claim that they "MUST" change to EE. Dad resisted, fearing a repeat of the above fiasco, but was led to believe there was no alternative.  Bare faced lies!  Are the agents incentivised? 

He later discovered that he didn't have to change and called back to insist the changeover be cancelled.  Initially he was told it was impossible, but after persisting he was told the switch had been cancelled.  Then they started getting communications from EE......  Contacted EE to say they didn't want to switch, but wanted to stay with BT.  Again initially told it was impossible, but eventually agreed it was possible and that the switch was cancelled.  Then, yesterday, the phone stopped working.  So far broadband is still working but not clear if it will continue to.

Once again two elderly, vulnerable people have been severely let down by the arrogance and utter incompetence of BT.  It's shameful.

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Message 14 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

@Lopenalong 

are your parents registered here  https://www.bt.com/content/dam/bt/help/including-you/BT_Free_Priority_Fault_Repair_Scheme.pdf

https://www.bt.com/help/here-for-you

your parents with their age and medical conditions should not have been moved just now to digital voice  unfortunately there is no way back to previous system after moving to DV



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Message 15 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

"This time around, a billing enquiry produced the claim that they "MUST" change to EE. Dad resisted, fearing a repeat of the above fiasco, but was led to believe there was no alternative. Bare faced lies! Are the agents incentivised?"

Yes they are, and I think that is the root of a lot of the issues customers are having with BT.
Although some agents are honest and are willing to forgo their commission if they can actually help the customer, others are clearly putting their commission above the needs of the customers and are willing to indulge in half truths, and even, dare I say, downright lies, to maximise their commission.
Helpline agents should not be incentivised to upsell and until BT changes this practice I fear they'll continue not offering any proper service.
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Message 16 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

Thank you Lopenalong - what a horrendous story ....  I thought mine was bad enough  but my heart goes out to all three of you.

I, too, was initially given the impression by the BT Value Dept (representing Contracts)) that I did NOT really have a choice (sorry, "misprint" on my part in one of my earlier posts...).  However I soon came to the conclusion that something was wrong somewhere due to the 14 day cooling off period a customer is entitled to.

Therefore, if customers make use of this and cancel within 14 days  surely this must mean that automatically  the system should revert back to its original settings ??? 

Obviously this is not the case and I really feel sorry for the engineers who have to get involved sooner or later and try and sort out the mess which has been created .... but most of all I feel sorry for vulnerable customers who should not be put in this position in the first place!

At the moment it seems all of us are caught right in the middle of "the BT/EE technical system says NO" and there are no easy answers at present - all of this is of course unacceptable.

Have you raised an official complaint??

Hopefully a solution can be found for you very quickly nevertheless.

With kind regards

SMOKEY24

 

 

 

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Message 17 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

@Lopenalong I'm really concerned to hear about the position that this has left your father and his partner in, especially if they rely on their landline for their telecare system.

Have you had a chance to report this most recent fault to our team, and are they registered as vulnerable like @imjolly highlighted? 

Also @SMOKEY24 I can appreciate why you'll not want to keep calling constantly for these issues, and whilst I'm confident our team will be able to get this resolved, we want to make sure some ownership is being taken. 

When was the last update you had on this?
Peter

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Message 18 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

HI Peter, I have never had an update as such.

All I have had is an EE complaint  acknowledgement  "we are looking into it" dated 22nd October - this was initially actioned on my behalf via the Chat Facility with  the BT Technical Landline Support and raised by them but I cannot remember when that was - I have lost track - I have been in touch with them that way on several occasions.  The line went down on 15th October.

Thank you so much for your reassuring words - I truly feel sorry for all  engineers  involved-  I am sure that they are doing their best and  are  also " tearing their hair out" but are probably also caught in the middle in the the same way as we customers are ....

Once again, thanks a million - I live in hope ....

Regards

SMOKEY24

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Message 19 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

Thanks @SMOKEY24, please keep us posted on how you get on. 

If you get no further updates over the next few days please let me know and we can look into what other options we have available for getting this chased.

Peter

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Message 20 of 29

Re: NO LANDLINE FOR 2 WEEKS NOW

You're a Star, Peter - will do!

SMOKEY24

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