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Message 11 of 30

Re: Appalling Bullying Behaviour

my last message is specically to @garybs29 - to no-one else so I apologise to anyone else who may consider it against them
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Message 12 of 30

Re: Appalling Bullying Behaviour

and finally to @imjolly for removing my original post to a new thread - please explain clearly to me why you should have done this when I had deliberately posted on the original thread - this is and was all on the same and original topic of BT digital voice - I need to understand why you (@imjolly) can just do this without enquiring of me - this is unjust and takes away from the clarity and subject of the original thread - I remain very unhappy with his
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Message 13 of 30

Re: Appalling Bullying Behaviour

@45SM 

As I said I moved your long detailed post to your own thread so replies to your problem do not get mixed up with replies to the poster of the original thread who is currently waiting on openreach who hopefully will solve the problem.  Once contacted by ELC on Monday then you can update your thread again avoiding confusing with previous poster of original thread.

My sole intention was to ensure your post received the attention  to speed up a solution



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Message 14 of 30

Re: Appalling Bullying Behaviour

I don't think there's any need for you to post at all. Wait until you're on the receiving end of the threatening, bullying emails and letters and either trying to look after an elderly relative or are that elderly person. I was always brought up that if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all. Useful advice I'd say as you are not in the situation and have zero idea of it.

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Message 15 of 30

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@Midsummer100wrote:

I don't think there's any need for you to post at all. Wait until you're on the receiving end of the threatening, bullying emails and letters and either trying to look after an elderly relative or are that elderly person. I was always brought up that if you can't say anything nice, then don't say anything at all. Useful advice I'd say as you are not in the situation and have zero idea of it.


you have no idea of my circumstances or whether I do or have looked after an elderly relative or whether I am that elderly person.  The one thing I am certain about is that if your father is 89 I am certainly older than you.

I would add that I was one of the posters who told you to contact consumer resolutions and get help from  ELC which seems to have helped as you now have openreach coming to try and help your father



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Message 16 of 30

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If you have such vast experience of being bullied, frightened and intimidated by BT then why defend them and accuse the poster of not giving the full story?

I didn't take your advice because I knew from past experience, as explained yesterday, it would be fruitless. 

BT executive office contacted me and have apologised for the bullying, frightening and intimidating behaviour they display. Their staff at the executive office are embarrassed by their employers behaviour. 

BTs behaviour is scandalous and there is no defending it, and yet you did and accused the poster of lying.

Probably best you stay off these forums in future if you can't say anything helpful, useful or nice. 

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Message 17 of 30

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@Midsummer100wrote:

Probably best you stay off these forums in future if you can't say anything helpful, useful or nice. 


Amazing how quick someone who is a 'victim', suddenly turns into the aggressor giving out demands.

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Message 18 of 30

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@Midsummer100

I have never accused the poster of lying unless you can show me the post where it happened. my post consisted of

'I moved your post to start your own thread so any replies will be about your problem and not getting confused with originator the the previous thread

Have you contacted the makers of your Telecare alarm letting the know you are getting changed to digital voice so they can ensure system updated'

and

'Hopefully ELC will contact you on Monday and sort out your problem and get you connected'

and

'As I said I moved your long detailed post to your own thread so replies to your problem do not get mixed up with replies to the poster of the original thread who is currently waiting on openreach who hopefully will solve the problem.  Once contacted by ELC on Monday then you can update your thread again avoiding confusing with previous poster of original thread.

My sole intention was to ensure your post received the attention  to speed up a solution'#

can you highlight where I accused @45SM  of lying

 



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Message 19 of 30

Re: Appalling Bullying Behaviour

Hi,

Just a reminder that this is a Community forum for members to share their experience and also help others who reach out for assistance and advice. 

Not everyone's experience or perception of a situation will be the same, and so naturally user discussions will take place, which we encourage and allow. 

However, please be mindful of any future replies, and avoid responding if you feel you're unhappy with another users response. If needed you can report any replies for staff to pick up on and moderate if required. You'll find the Report option available to the side of every post and reply. 

To view, in full, the forum user guidelines and terms of use please click on the links below:
BTCare Community Forum Terms of Use
https://community.bt.com/t5/Announcements-Guides-Community/BTCare-Community-Forums-Terms-of-Use/td-p...
BTCare Community Forum User Guidelines
https://community.bt.com/t5/Announcements-Guides-Community/BTCare-Community-Forums-User-Guidelines/t...

I'm leaving this thread unlocked for now to allow @45SM to keep us updated with progress of their case, and in case they would like any further help and advice. 

Thank you

Ali

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Message 20 of 30

Re: Appalling Bullying Behaviour

thank you - you are kind - here is my further post

BT Exec office did not phone me between 10-00am and 11-00am this morning – I left it until after 12-00 noon and phoned the ‘ordinary’ BT number twice – the 1st time I was cutoff, then spoke to a very helpful person who (on my behalf) asked Exec office to phone me. This phone call did come through but the person said that he had been asked to call any time today, up until 8-00pm!

I got nowhere – no apology, no acknowledgement that the email and subsequent letter were a) incorrect in detail and b) very frightening (please see earlier post re these). It was as if he was reading from a script or autocue – if I tried to say something I was told not to interrupt – yet when I was allowed to say something I was frequently interrupted! There was no apology for the bullying, frightening and intimidating behaviour. Certainly this member of staff in the Execec office is not embarrassed by his and other employees behaviour all of which behaviour  is apparently OK with BT as the employer. 

I was told that the email & letter were deliberately worded to cause alarm – I countered that it was more than alarm, it was real fear (my safety could be compromised re telecare alarm) but was told this is the same thing. For the record, they are not the same thing – alarm is re a possible future threat at the possibility of this threat, whereas fear is a response to an immediate threat and the email etc were an immediate threat “This means your broadband service will temporarily stop within the next 5 days for 7 days” (bold is used in the email/letter).

He acknowledged that BT knows that I have a telecare alarm.

I pointed out that only around 2 in 5 UK households have a landline and this will usually be the older generation, so sending out such a communication will cause fear amongst vulnerable people - I got nowhere.

I pointed out that sending threatening messages (communications online or offline) that BT will cut off my broadband which could cause me harm is an offence (I have reported this to the police and have incident reference). Whether BT intend to do what they have threatened or whether I actually feel afraid (which I certainly do) does not matter. It is an offence because I believe that they wanted to cause me fear by sending the message. I got nowhere.

BT will (of course) issue a deadlock letter – ie I, and other people in the same frightening situation, get nowhere.

I asked to speak direct to the CEO – she does not speak to customers. She forgets that it is not the wages dept who pays her salary and etc – it is the customer.

Conclusion = the customer is of little importance especially as regards safety, and it does not matter how much damage (fear) has been caused to the customer. Equally it appears that BT are above the law re sending threatening correspondence  – does anyone have any ideas? 

Many thanks again to all those who have shown support to a lady who is in her 80s, who has been very seriously ill, and who lives alone with no close relatives.

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