Why doesn't the master socket include an ethernet port as standard?

[imjolly]

if you move to FTTC then hub will connect in exactly same way as you do now - master socket and using a filter

[HHGTTG]

In effect no change then , UNTIL the switch to DV when my phone would plug into the back of SH2 or plug into a DV adapter paired to the SH2. And then I don't need filters fote the phones, obviously other than to cure some old phones that don't apparently ring!

[imjolly]

@HHGTTG 

yes  normally you then could do away with filter but as still have old master socket then you need to keep filter to connect to hub rj11

[HHGTTG]

I have my hub on an extension (Oh NO cries I hear) and I have my microfilter there. Two other phones on extensions from same master socket (more cries) have filters where they plug into their dedicated extension sockets.
It works!

[MissMoppett]

Till I retired I worked most of the time in an office built on the side of the house. BT moved the master socket into my office so that the router was nearer my PC, but leaving of course the bog standard phone socket there. However for some unknown reason the wifi signal into the rest of the house has become very intermittent recently though I get a satisfactory 65 Mbps in my office. I've tried various TP-Links which are pretty useless, so we've come to the conclusion it will be better to move the router back to the hall. Unfortunately plugging in the obvious dual filter/phone gadget into the hall socket does not work, presumably because BT have just wired this as a "junction box". Hence my query, wouldn't life have been much simpler if the master socket had been ethernet dual with pnone? Hope this makes some sense. And thank you for your interest.

[ptrduffy]

The reason the Master Socket doesn't have an Ethernet connection is that it doesn't provide an Ethernet interface.

When you get your broadband delivered via a Master Socket, it is by definition coming over a copper pair which runs to the nearest cabinet (or even all the way to the exchange).  In order to send data over such a connection, the data bits have to be converted into waves in a frequency range that can travel the necessary distance - this process is called modulation, and its reverse is demodulation.  Hence the Master Socket presents a connection that requires a modem (modulator-demodulator) to be connected to it.

Ethernet connections do not use any such modulation process.  If you connected the Ethernet port on your computer a a new Ethernet connection on the Master Socket it just wouldn't work - unless the Master Scosket was also upgraded to include the modem component internally, which would complicate things significantly.

As others have said, when a property is moved over to FTTP the Master Socket is no longer used, and the fibre terminates on an ONT, whcih does present an Ethernet interface.

[HHGTTG]

Yes I do understand that. FTTP is quite a different beast.

[licquorice]

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@MissMoppett wrote:

Till I retired I worked most of the time in an office built on the side of the house. BT moved the master socket into my office so that the router was nearer my PC, but leaving of course the bog standard phone socket there. However for some unknown reason the wifi signal into the rest of the house has become very intermittent recently though I get a satisfactory 65 Mbps in my office. I've tried various TP-Links which are pretty useless, so we've come to the conclusion it will be better to move the router back to the hall. Unfortunately plugging in the obvious dual filter/phone gadget into the hall socket does not work, presumably because BT have just wired this as a "junction box". Hence my query, wouldn't life have been much simpler if the master socket had been ethernet dual with pnone? Hope this makes some sense. And thank you for your interest.

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Does the master socket have 2 sockets, one for phone the other for your router?

If, as I suspect, it does, then it is a filtered socket which means broadband is not extended to your extension socket.

Simply transfer the 2 wires that are currently terminated on pins 2&5 of the removable faceplate (that go to the extension socket) to the data extension terminals instead.

[MissMoppett]

I am grateful for your reply, however . . . In an enlightening, nay exciting day, I learnt a smidgeon of knowledge about BT sockets by delving into the many YouTube videos and found this suggestion of swapping two wires to AB. However as you can see there are already two wires in these slots, so I haven't ventures along that route - but please tell me if I'm wrong.