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Message 11 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?

It's probably the same people behind these businesses too
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Message 12 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?

What is OpenReach's incentive to do it if a private company has jumped in and set up all the poles and infrastructure before them?

 

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Message 13 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?

On a side issue.

How do you make it clear who you are replying to on this forum, is there a quote option I am missing?

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Message 14 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?

@sim64 

What is OpenReach's incentive to do it if a private company has jumped in and set up all the poles and infrastructure before them?

It's all about markets and competition. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/category-1/2021-26-wholesale-fixed-telecoms-ma...

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Message 15 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?


@sim64 wrote:

On a side issue.

How do you make it clear who you are replying to on this forum, is there a quote option I am missing?


There's a quote option on the desktop site but not the mobile site. You need to expand the toolbar with the 3 dots and then use the quote marks button after selecting 'Reply' to the post you wish to quote.

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Message 16 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?


@licquoricewrote:

@sim64wrote:

On a side issue.

How do you make it clear who you are replying to on this forum, is there a quote option I am missing?


There's a quote option on the desktop site but not the mobile site. You need to expand the toolbar with the 3 dots and then use the quote marks button after selecting 'Reply' to the post you wish to quote.


Thanks, I think I've found it 🙂

They don't make that easy to find

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Message 17 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?


@jac_95wrote:

@sim64 

What is OpenReach's incentive to do it if a private company has jumped in and set up all the poles and infrastructure before them?

It's all about markets and competition. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/category-1/2021-26-wholesale-fixed-telecoms-ma...


Thanks.

If OpenReach are obliged to let other providers use their existing infrastructure why are the other providers installing their own?

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Message 18 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?


@sim64 wrote:

@jac_95wrote:

@sim64 

What is OpenReach's incentive to do it if a private company has jumped in and set up all the poles and infrastructure before them?

It's all about markets and competition. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/category-1/2021-26-wholesale-fixed-telecoms-ma...


Thanks.

If OpenReach are obliged to let other providers use their existing infrastructure why are the other providers installing their own?


Because there may not be any suitable Openreach infrastructure already installed.

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Message 19 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?

@sim64 

Thanks.

If OpenReach are obliged to let other providers use their existing infrastructure why are the other providers installing their own?

Could be down to many reasons, such as current ducts and poles not adequate or no capacity/blocked to being down to process, time and cost.

Here if you walk down the street you see carriageway and pavement covers for a list of infrastructure providers, to name some: Openreach, Virgin Media, City Fibre, Hyperoptic, Capita, Verizon...

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Message 20 of 29

Re: Does Voneus Share Poles?

Just be because Openreach have no choice to allow others to use their ducts, poles, joint boxes etc. via PIA ( physical infrastructure access ) doesn’t mean these other companies are compelled to use them , if they want to construct a new network ( overhead, underground or a mixture of both ) they are at liberty to do so.

OR do receive small payments from other company’s  using PIA , it’s much much cheaper to leech off OR than build new , but  in this case it could be the company don’t use PIA , or some existing OR poles are being used and some new Voneus poles are also necessary , there are rules about cable distance between  poles, height over roads , separation between telecommunications cables and  overhead power etc , they cannot demand OR add new poles just so they can use them , so these poles may be to fill in gaps and keep to the rules around safety etc. in the overhead network.

It may also be , that they know if they put their own new poles up in strategic places , that when OR come along , because OR cannot use Voneus poles , OR may not be able to easily upgrade the area for OR FTTP themselves  , so Voneus doing this could make it more likely the area will be avoided by other providers, locking in those that want FTTP to Voneus

Voneus building a network in its self doesn’t stop OR or anyone else constructing FTTP , but it could make it much more expensive and difficult, that may well put off other company’s, leaving you with a choice of Voneus , or sticking what you already have.