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Changing home configurations

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I have two contracts coming to an end in January, one for Broadband plus landline, the other for just landline.

I wish to renew my contract but no longer need two phone lines. What I would like to do is retain Broadband plus a landline but switch the number currently in use for that service to the present landline only number; ie reallocate the current Broadband service and phone number to the other line.

Because of the internal wiring, the sales people do not understand what will be required technically and even have told me incorrect information (eg full fibre broadband to the home will not need a new connection interface).

Previous experience of BT engineers means I would like to discuss the issue with someone from either BT or Openreach to determine what needs to be done. However, 2 conversations with support staff contacted by the messaging facility have got nowhere and I have been advised to contact the Values team. I though the latter was for retention issues? Is there any way of getting technical support other than perhaps claiming a fault and then discussing with whoever comes to fix. I don't mind paying for technical support if only I can find out where to get it!

Thanks for any help.

 

Chris H.

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can you not just keep existing broadband and line connection and get the line renumbered to that of phone only number - terminating phone only line



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Thank you. Actually I suggested that a year ago to a BT sales support person after a friend told me that it was probably quite a simple job to transfer/reassign the physical connection to another number.  The response I got was that I would have to request broadband service on the existing landline only number and then cancel service on the original broadband line. This would not achieve what I want as I also wish to retain the existing wiring setup for the present equipment which not only includes wifi but a direct Ethernet connection for a computer, as well as the  convenience of an adjacent desk. Switching to the wiring for the present standalone line is not really practical.

The other issue is that whenever we have had problems, BT / Openreach engineers have often been unable to solve them quickly and on the last occasion required a second visit from another engineer who rewired from the street cabinet. 

I don't need full fibre and don't want it because I don't think the installation would go smoothly based on previous experience. I shall probably continue on an out of contract service for both numbers for the time being although the worst case scenario is to cancel service on the existing standalone landline and tell all our friends/business contacts that we have a new number using the present Broadband line!

All I want to do is to find a contact at BT to whom I can explain what I wish to do, hopefully gain confirmation that it is technically feasible and how it will be achieved, and pay for it to be arranged.

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I have asked one of the mods to see if they can help you.  they will post here



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Hi @chrisharvey2a

Thanks for your posts and welcome back!

Sorry for the problems you're having getting your request actioned.  I understand you want to cancel the landline only and renumber the line/broadband with the number that's currently working on the landline you want cancelled.

I have sent you a private message with instructions on how you can send us over your details and we'll look into this for you. See: Private messages

Thanks,

Robbie

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Hi @chrisharvey2a, thanks for taking the time to speak with me earlier. As discussed, the numbers are allocated to different exchange codes so it's not possible to switch off one line and allocate that number to the other line. 

You've decided to leave the set up as is for the moment and consider your option once you move to full fibre.

Cheers

John

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Many thanks to John for his help in determining the technical options and explaining why what I desired was not actually feasible with my present connections with landlines.

However, he did suggest that a possible solution would be to transfer to a full fibre connection which being digital would be more straightforward to achieve.

I am happy to dwell on that option for the time being, but will think through all the  implications for my home setup.

This is the first person other than sales personnel who has fully understood the issues, and not only that followed up internally to check the technicalities, which I understand; its just unfortunate that my requirement cannot be met easily at present.

Thank you for being so helpful.

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This message is in follow up to an earlier conversation in November 2022 when I raised the issue that I had two accounts with BT, one which was landline only (and used as a primary number for contact) and the other which was primarily for broadband and a second landline used occasionally.

At the time I wanted to transfer the number used for the standalone landline to the Broadband account, but was advised by John C2 (now listed as Moderator-retired) that it was not possible because the numbers were allocated to different exchange codes. I agreed to leave the issue until full fibre became available - which it now is.

Hence I asumed that because presumably the local exchange is now digital that the changeover would now be possible albeit that both lines at present are FTTC but the local exchange is offering full fibre.

Hence I decided a few weeks ago to initiate the transfer of the number from the landline only account to the broadband plus landline account but have again hit major obstacles. The first service agent I spoke to implied that it was not possible without suspending the number to be transferred for upto a week or more, while billing and accounting managed the reorganisation of the accounts. I decided that this was unacceptable personally because that number is used by all our contacts including hospitals wishing to get in touch with my 79 year old wife.

I decided that a better option with FTTP likely in the near term would be to keep both numbers for now; when appropriate to add broadband to the standalone landline, and then once proven to later drop the already existent broadband thus removing the risk of having the number removed from the current important landline only account.

However when I discussed with the service agent he muisunderstood and despite requesting him to make no changes to either account, he initiated changes (eg marking the landline only account inactive) which have triggered a series of online chats and phone calls with various BT agents; eventually resulting in an order being generated for the transfer (due to take place today) and a final bill in respect of the landline only account sent to me.

The order was not completed today but instead part cancelled and my standalone landline line has been made inoperable (unable to make outgoing calls, incoming calls get number unobtainable).

Once more I contacted BT by phone but a different service agent was not able to ascertain the reasons for the non transfer of number but stated she would investigate and get BT to contact me in 3 days to request reordering!

I find this process complexity to be completely technically unnecessary in a digital age and cannot understand why the need for multiple discussions and contradictory statements of intent.

I had thought of writing to BT Chief Executive but unfortunately she is unlikely to be able to resolve the issue directly but presumably head office has a team who would respond to correspondence.

What would be helpful to know from forum moderators again is whether the constraint stated three years ago (ie in lay terms that the local exchange comprises two sub exchange codes) and my accounts/numbers are not on the same ones, still exists -  or whether my assumption is correct that this is less of a technical issue and really an admin one.

Also, I suspect that there are not many domestic customers with a similar arrangement (two accounts, one landline, one broadband with landline) and hence the frontline service agents do not know how to handle a request for change. If this is so, how do we as customers contact someone at BT who fully understands what is required and can get back to explain any issue or handle the transfer and order process in a straightforward manner.

 

Chris Harvey

 

 

 

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Hi @chrisharvey2a 

Thanks for coming back to us. 

I am sorry we no longer have account access on the community to check the account to see what would be needed for the transfer of the landline number and if this would now be possible since you last posted. 

The best people to get you the answers you need and check what options are available is our broadband tech guides. If this is not resolved for you on the call, you can open a complaint which would be sent to our executive complaints team to be fully investigated and they would contact you. 

Thanks. 

Leanne.

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@chrisharvey2a 

if you were upgrading to FTTP were you also moving to digital voice for phone service?



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